The Rise of Zion – 2 Nephi 30:1-18

1 And now behold, my beloved brethren, I would speak unto you; for I, Nephi, would not suffer [let you think] that ye should suppose that ye are more righteous than the Gentiles shall be. For behold, except ye shall keep the commandments of God ye shall all likewise perish; and because of the words which have been spoken ye need not suppose that the Gentiles are utterly destroyed.

2 For behold, I say unto you that as many of the Gentiles as will repent are the covenant people of the Lord; and as many of the Jews as will not repent shall be cast off; for the Lord covenanteth with none save it be with them that repent and believe in his Son, who is the Holy One of Israel. [A powerful blessing to the gentiles.]

What the Lord has shown me is that the majority of the House of Israel will receive the fullness of the covenant, but only a small percentage of the gentiles will. The same covenant is offered, But as the Lord has said, the Elect shall hear His voice. What makes them Elect? It is because of who they were before this world. The Elect are the new spirit children of God in their first estate. The children of men are also children of God, but more ancient, having been 2nd estate since before the creation of this world. These Elect used to be confined to only the Israelites; however, in our time they are spread across the world amongst different people to act as a leaven during the Times of the Gentiles. God’s ways are so merciful and just!

3 And now, I would prophesy somewhat more concerning the Jews and the Gentiles. For after the book of which I have spoken shall come forth, and be written unto the Gentiles, and sealed up again unto the Lord, there shall be many which shall believe the words which are written; and they shall carry them forth unto the remnant of our seed. [The Book of Mormon]

4 And then shall the remnant of our seed know concerning us, how that we came out from Jerusalem, and that they are descendants of the Jews.

5 And the gospel of Jesus Christ shall be declared among them; wherefore, they shall be restored unto the knowledge of their fathers, and also to the knowledge of Jesus Christ, which was had among their fathers. [This has not yet occurred and will happen during great destructions upon this land. “First Zion” will have been established. 3 Nephi 20:15-22]

6 And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a pure and a delightsome people. [A generation is approximately 40 years according to Biblical language. It has been about 5 generations since the Book of Mormon has been published. And they shall “blossom as a rose.” D&C 49:24-25]

7 And it shall come to pass that the Jews which are scattered also shall begin to believe in Christ; and they shall begin to gather in upon the face of the land; and as many as shall believe in Christ shall also become a delightsome people. [A small number growing.]

8 And it shall come to pass that the Lord God shall commence his work among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, to bring about the restoration of his people [House of Israel] upon the earth.

9 And with righteousness shall the Lord God judge the poor [in spirit], and reprove with equity [just in His giving of blessings] for the meek of the earth. And he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth; and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. [judgments of the last days]

10 For the time speedily cometh that the Lord God shall cause a great division among the people, and the wicked will he destroy; and he will spare his people, yea, even if it so be that he must destroy the wicked by fire.

We live in a time of great wickedness, murder, and secret combinations. many of the righteous cry out to God and wonder why He stays His hand. The wicked are ripe in iniquity throughout the world, and God will pour out His judgments when the people are fully divided. The area of grey and moderation is coming to an end. All will either choose wickedness, or the Lord their God.

11 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins [prepare you for battle], and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. [Revelation shall guide their purposes.]

12 And then shall the wolf dwell with the lamb; and the leopard shall lie down with the kid, and the calf, and the young lion, and the fatling, together; and a little child shall lead them.

13 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

14 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’s den.

15 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

As stated in 2 Nephi 21,”These examples portray the animal kingdom, but more importantly, Isaiah describes the peace and felicity that will exist between enemies. There will not be differing religious views or political ideologies, for the knowledge of God shall cover the earth.

16 Wherefore, the things of all nations shall be made known; yea, all things shall be made known unto the children of men.

17 There is nothing which is secret save it shall be revealed; there is no work of darkness save it shall be made manifest in the light; and there is nothing which is sealed upon the earth save it shall be loosed. [All knowledge shall be revealed during this time, the Millennium.]

18 Wherefore, all things which have been revealed unto the children of men shall at that day be revealed; and Satan shall have power over the hearts of the children of men no more, for a long time. [Until those of a telestial glory transmigrate to another telestial world after the earth is glorified.] And now, my beloved brethren, I make an end of my sayings.

I know that I sometimes write things that seem strange, because they are unfamiliar. Imagine how the early members of the church felt when Joseph Smith threw out some humdingers. The fact is that the creations of God are filled with miracles and the marvelous. What we accept as mundane today would have been far-fetched and ridiculous to even our grandparents in their generation. Nephi saw much more than he wrote about for the same reason I restrain from writing certain things. If you see anything in my writing that makes you uncomfortable ask the Lord what you should do with that information.

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20 Responses to The Rise of Zion – 2 Nephi 30:1-18

  1. Donald says:

    I’ve always enjoyed and learned from what you’ve written. Thank you. It makes me feel joyFULL. 🙂 -Donald

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  2. Mike Ross says:

    [Until those of a telestial glory transmigrate to another telestial world after the earth is glorified.]

    If a person does not have an event baptism of fire in this life, they are still 2nd estate? [They can receive it in the next life too, but not baptism of water. PR]

    If true, then that is a LOT of people. Is it 3rd estate or 4th estate where transmigrations to another world end? [3rd estate]

    What about the Lord? He was far above 3rd and 4th estate when He came down 2000 years ago… ? [Of course]


  3. brotherjr says:

    11 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins [prepare you for battle]…
    Who will be involved, and how, in this (plural?) battle? is this to battle evil by spiritual means, or are (some of) these people going to be caught up in physical battles before 1st Zion comes?
    Thank you for this work you are doing! It is amazing and so appreciated!


  4. Mike Ross says:

    “Of course”


    Well that’s my point, that’s an example of a “more than” 3rd estate being transmigrating to another world. So if transmigration stops at 3rd estate, then that doesn’t fit.

    Maybe I should ask what your definition if transmigration is?

    Appreciate the time you take to put these thoughts together. So much! [Transmigration are 2nd estate spirits traveling to another earth to continue their telestial existence. When a higher estate being goes to a world it is a condescension. PR]

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  5. Myrsmakeup says:

    I am so grateful for the books you have available ! I reference them quite often after I am in prayer. The breakdown of estates can be overwhelming but it starts to make sense when I realized that LINE UPON LINE PRECEPT ON PRECEPT is how He literally lifts us! It makes me have a stronger desire to ask the Lord to work with me and to guide me to only do His will. Not mine. It’s tough but so rewarding when he answers!!!

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  6. S Silver says:

    I’m beginning to get the feeling that the gospel of Christ was meant to be simple and easy, learned line upon line as one lived an honest life and experienced nature as they grew their own food, raised animals, children & families. Most days I worry that I’m going to be blown to smithereens in the first bomb drop and die without my baptism of fire.

    Is this an unfounded fear of mine? If I want to serve Christ and am seeking Him, does my fretting and trying to “hurry” do any good? It seems a time is coming where truth will be plainly taught and the baptism of fire won’t be as hard for me to figure out. Is this true?


  7. All those who are in a state of repenting (your heart’s desire is to know God) will find what they seek. Whether in this life or the next.

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  8. It is a spiritual battle that takes place in the physical realm. Like Moses, Elijah, and Enoch’s day, but on a grander scale.


  9. S Silver says:

    The Elect that have come to our earth (first estate), is it common for them to progress rapidly to second estate? Or even to third estate in one lifetime or in one “covenant planet cycle” made up of however many times they were allowed to come to this earth? [Entering mortality is the 2nd estate. It is not an immediate process to go to the 3rd estate. Initially, the House of Israel was given the Mosaic Law to prepare them. All those who have not yet ascended with receive this blessing in the Times of the Gathering of Israel (our time), or at the Resurrection when Christ comes. PR]

    How do individuals get stuck in the second estate, transmigrating from world to world? [They choose not to accept Christ or Satan and remain in their sins, bound to the flesh. They will stay telestial forever, but sometimes are given opportunities to receive again as was the case with this world.]

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  10. Mike Ross says:

    1. Is there any way to know whether you are already a 3rd estate or 4th estate? [3rd estate is to know you have received the gift of the Holy Ghost. 4th estate is to recieve your calling and election made sure. This is why I tell people not to worry whether you are 4th. Most 4th don’t even find out in this life. How about that? However, most will know in this one.]

    2. Or if you are here and you are fairly positive you have yet to receive your baptism of fire event that means there is no way around it… you are 2nd estate? [There are plenty of 4th that have not received their gift of the Holy Ghost yet. For them it is an awakening of what they already have.]

    3. And if you are a 2nd estate… then that means more than likely this life is NOT your first time as a human on a planet? [Yes]

    4. And if this is so, (#3 above), that means you more than likely tuned out the gospel in a previous life? [It’s been a process for most all 2nd estate Elect. But most will receive in the end. PR]

    5. I have heard that it is possible for a 4th estate to be here and not know that they are a fourth estate. Is that possible?

    PR, thank you very much for your patience. This is a fairly convoluted way to get answers and maybe somethings are better left until the Lord reveals them… but if you can put more light on these, just thanks for doing that.

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  11. S Silver says:

    The third estate (and beyond) individuals that condescend to come into mortal lives, worlds without end, how many times does the average person come back to each planet? Do we keep coming over and over, almost back to back? Or are there gaps of time between our mortal lives where hundreds of years pass on earth? [It depends on many factors. Part of that I am not permitted to answer. But, when someone receives there 3rd estate they rest until they are called up to be 4th estate before a new world. Some stay 3rd for a long time. Honestly, its best not to dwell on the topic of “how many times.” Our focus is to find Christ now. In the end we will see how perfectly everything was planned and executed. How the Lord was in every detail and so very merciful.]

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  12. Mike Ross says:

    Allright. If this is not the first time as a human on a planet:

    1. Is it fairly accurate to say that previous lives were done on this same planet here? Or more probable that it was lived on another planet(s)?

    2. If another, different planet… did that planet go through its 2nd coming with me “tied” or associated with or to it all the way to its final judgement baptism by fire/Zion established/ terrestrial stage? [Good questions, I think I have said enough on this topic.]


  13. Rebecca Brent says:

    Can you tell me, or do you know if there are any 4th estate among children right now?
    Can you be a 4th estate without being a gatherer or one of the 144k?


  14. I dont know the answer to that. But, we shouldn’t feel less if we are not 4th estate. What matters is that we come unto Christ.

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  15. All Gatherers are 4th estate, which are a part of the 144k.


  16. Mike Ross says:

    [Good questions, I think I have said enough on this topic.]
    Yes you really did PR…And many thanks for that!
    “What matters is that we come unto Christ”


  17. P B says:

    Here are a few questions unrelated to the discussion so far, but related to the rise of Zion and the restoration of the Jews. I remain very confused about how to view the Jewish Nation (Israel) in terms of God’s purposes and the great work to take place in the near future. I feel that the Jewish religion has been heavily infiltrated by dark forces (maybe the darkest forces on earth). Israel and those who claim Jewish heritage have ENORMOUS financial control of politics (through things such as AIPAC), industry, entertainment, economics, and virtually all of society. This is not theory of a conspiracy, but is documented fact. Overwhelmingly, Jewish religion today consists not of following the Torah / Mosiac, seeking after Jehovah, but rather followers of Kaballah/Zohar – which is Babylonian in it’s roots. It appears to be deeply Babylonian, in every way. Obviously Babylon is everything worldly. But is it also specifically the secret combination that has taken hold of Judaism since their initially mingling with the Kingdom of Babylon centuries before the Savior’s birth? How deep does this rabbit hole go? [Yes, what you say is mostly true. But there are other forces at work. It’s a complex question that requires much history to unravel. Since the establishment of Israel the Lord has sent His covenant spirits through that lineage, but also this is the same lineage of the sons of perdition. Today, the darkest leaders in Satan’s kingdom that exist in the flesh are Jews or House of Israel. But, this is by their lineage only, for they are Luciferian in their practices and objectives; not Jewish. These people are for the most part unknown to the world, but run much of the institutions that influence. They bring others up through their ranks. It is the foundation of the Great and Abominable Church of the devil. In the state of Israel today the vast majority are secular Jews, with a few Orthodox, and even fewer Messianic Jews. The prophecy of their conversion has obviously not yet occurred, but because of the few who did begin to believe in Christ it led to the prophecy of the Gentiles helping them return to their homeland.

    I am also curious about modern Christianity’s blind devotion to “Israel” which leads to an unknowing support of some very very atrocious actions that take place on the world stage. In your “End Times” book, the “kingdom of the beast” appears to be mainly an Islamic force. Is it the “kingdom of the beast” that leads to the fall of Babylon? [The AntiChrist and False Prophet will use the Kingdom of the Beast to fight against Israel, but then it will turn on itself and lead to the complete destruction of Babylon. The Church of the Gentiles has an affinity with Israel, to help her in any way. Many Christians believe it will hasten the coming of Christ. I do not believe this is necessary at this point. Certainly secret combinations exist in Israel as with any other nation of this earth.] Does the fall of Babylon focus heavily on the fall of the great secret combination that has taken root in the people named Israel (aka the Jews)? Is this calamity going to pave the way for their restoration, similar to how the Nephites were restored to the true faith after the calamities of 34AD? [Yes]

    How should we view the push for the 3rd temple in Jerusalem? This is clearly being done in an effort to bring in their Mossiach. Is the Mossiach they are looking for going to be the AntiChrist? Is it going to be the Davidic Servant? [Those Jews are sincere that they are looking for the return of the Messiah. The Davidic Servant has an interest in their movement. This temple will usher in the Davidic Servant, his influence, the rise of the Antichrist, and the battle of Armageddon. I watch these events with great interest. PR]

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  18. Ekaterina Turman says:

    There is a verse in Jeremiah 3:14 that says, “…I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion.” I have always been bothered by this verse, perhaps not understanding its meaning. Do you have any thoughts or insights about what is meant? It is just implying that the numbers of the Elect will be far and few in between or will the families actually be broken up and torn apart? Is there any hope to make it to Zion as a whole family unit? Or will this have to be one of the required sacrifices to choose Christ over your family members to qualify?

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  19. I read that differently. For God will have prophets in each city and members of a family filled with the Holy Ghost to lead others to Zion. Zion is a process of lifting others.

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  20. Ceilagan says:

    PR, can you explain why “The Elect are the new spirit children of God in their first estate.” and why the children of men, 2nd estate beings are considered ancient, since before the creation of this world? [The Elect are those who partook of the Everlasting Covenant before birth. The Second Estate who are ancient did not live up to that covenant from before and are telestial. In this is a mystery; meaning, only the Lord can reveal that to you. PR]

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