In Every Detail – Alma 19:1-36

1 And it came to pass that after two days and two nights they were about to take his body and lay it in a sepulchre, which they had made for the purpose of burying their dead.

2 Now the queen having heard of the fame of Ammon, therefore she sent and desired that he should come in unto her.

3 And it came to pass that Ammon did as he was commanded, and went in unto the queen, and desired to know what she would that he should do.

4 And she said unto him: The servants of my husband have made it known unto me that thou art a prophet of a holy God, and that thou hast power to do many mighty works in his name;

5 Therefore, if this is the case, I would that ye should go in and see my husband, for he has been laid upon his bed for the space of two days and two nights; and some say that he is not dead, but others say that he is dead and that he stinketh, and that he ought to be placed in the sepulchre; but as for myself, to me he doth not stink. [The Lamanites knew well the smell of death. Lamoni did not have it.]

6 Now, this was what Ammon desired, for he knew that king Lamoni was under the power of God; he knew that the dark veil of unbelief [traditions of his fathers] was being cast away from his mind, and the light which did light up his mind, which was the light of the glory of God [baptism of fire], which was a marvelous light of his goodness—yea, this light had infused such joy into his soul, the cloud of darkness having been dispelled, and that the light of everlasting life was lit up in his soul [gift of the Holy Ghost], yea, he knew that this had overcome his natural frame, and he was carried away in God—

Lamoni was experiencing an ascension. Typically, when this occurs the person does not disconnect to the extent that they would appear dead. In the case of Lamoni, the Lord handled it as such so there would be no interference in their experience.

7 Therefore, what the queen desired of him was his only desire. Therefore, he went in to see the king according as the queen had desired him; and he saw the king, and he knew that he was not dead.

Ammon saw the great potential of this event to help with the conversion of the family and court of king Lamoni. The Spirit was preparing him for what was about to proceed.

8 And he said unto the queen: He is not dead, but he sleepeth in God, and on the morrow he shall rise again; therefore bury him not. [Three days he would appear dead and then to rise again. Similar to Jonah in the whale, a similitude of the resurrection.]

9 And Ammon said unto her: Believest thou this? And she said unto him: I have had no witness save thy word, and the word of our servants; nevertheless I believe that it shall be according as thou hast said. [An example of the first step of faith, to simply believe upon the words of servant of God.]

10 And Ammon said unto her: Blessed art thou because of thy exceeding faith; I say unto thee, woman, there has not been such great faith among all the people of the Nephites. [The queen sought understanding from a servant of God and believed what would be considered impossible. Ammon’s statement that her faith was above all the Nephites is an indication of a kind of child like trust that is not common. This is important to understand when asking what is required to have a broken heart and contrite spirit, enough to open the windows of heaven.]

11 And it came to pass that she watched over the bed of her husband, from that time even until that time on the morrow which Ammon had appointed that he should rise.

12 And it came to pass that he arose, according to the words of Ammon; and as he arose, he stretched forth his hand unto the woman, and said: Blessed be the name of God, and blessed art thou. [We are so blessed!]

13 For as sure as thou livest, behold, I have seen my Redeemer; and he shall come forth, and be born of a woman, and he shall redeem all mankind who believe on his name. Now, when he had said these words, his heart was swollen within him, and he sunk again with joy; and the queen also sunk down [laid down], being overpowered by the Spirit.

This is a beautiful moment. I love his expression, “as sure as thou livest,” for it expresses the reality of what he has experienced. I am often asked if my experience is in or out of the flesh, as if it were not it would be less. My answer is that it is more real in that environment. In many ways it feels tangible, but the level of communication and awareness is more heightened compared to the temporal body. This is what they experienced – as sure as I am standing here now!

14 Now Ammon seeing the Spirit of the Lord poured out according to his prayers upon the Lamanites, his brethren, who had been the cause of so much mourning among the Nephites, or among all the people of God because of their iniquities and their traditions, he fell upon his knees, and began to pour out his soul in prayer and thanksgiving to God for what he had done for his brethren; and he was also overpowered with joy; and thus they all three had sunk to the earth. [Ammon is filled with the Spirit of God as he kneels within the pillar of fire and glory, which was surrounding where they were. He is inspired to pray out loud as a witness of what was happening and was also invited of the Lord to ascend.]

15 Now, when the servants of the king had seen that they had fallen, they also began to cry unto God, for the fear [great respect] of the Lord had come upon them also, for it was they who had stood before the king and testified unto him concerning the great power of Ammon.

16 And it came to pass that they did call on the name of the Lord, in their might, even until they had all fallen to the earth [the Lord is no respecter of persons], save it were one of the Lamanitish women, whose name was Abish, she having been converted unto the Lord for many years, on account of a remarkable vision of her father— [I will need to ask the Lord what this is about.]

The Lord showed me a vision of the scene. Abish was a middle-aged women, somewhat short and medium build. She was dark skinned and her face was full. Her hair was done up in a way that reminded me of old Hopi photographs. She was the daughter of one of the kings most trusted servants who had since died. Her job had something to do with the preparing of meals, and only the most trusted servants were allowed to do such things for the king’s court. I was shown that her father had a vision where he was taught by angels about Jesus Christ and told that the day would come when his people would be converted and receive the Gospel. Abish means loyal or dedicated daughter. I think her name fits her very well. Abish’ family had prayed to Christ since her father’s conversion and had kept it very private. She had a role to play, which she fulfilled when she introduced the people to this holy event.

17 Thus, having been converted to the Lord, and never having made it known, therefore, when she saw that all the servants of Lamoni had fallen to the earth, and also her mistress, the queen, and the king, and Ammon lay prostrate upon the earth, she knew that it was the power of God; and supposing that this opportunity, by making known unto the people what had happened among them, that by beholding this scene it would cause them to believe in the power of God, therefore she ran forth from house to house, making it known unto the people.

18 And they began to assemble themselves together unto the house of the king. And there came a multitude, and to their astonishment, they beheld the king, and the queen, and their servants prostrate upon the earth, and they all lay there as though they were dead; and they also saw Ammon, and behold, he was a Nephite.

19 And now the people began to murmur among themselves; some saying that it was a great evil that had come upon them, or upon the king and his house, because he had suffered that the Nephite should remain in the land. [It would appear as a conspiracy to those without knowledge.]

20 But others rebuked them, saying: The king hath brought this evil upon his house, because he slew his servants who had had their flocks scattered at the waters of Sebus.

21 And they were also rebuked by those men who had stood at the waters of Sebus and scattered the flocks which belonged to the king, for they were angry with Ammon because of the number which he had slain of their brethren at the waters of Sebus, while defending the flocks of the king. [Many held feelings against either the king or Ammon because of the bloodshed at the waters of Sebus.]

22 Now, one of them, whose brother had been slain with the sword of Ammon, being exceedingly angry with Ammon, drew his sword and went forth that he might let it fall upon Ammon, to slay him; and as he lifted the sword to smite him, behold, he fell dead. [They were protected by the angels of God.]

When a spirit leaves a body it is always important that this is done according to the Lord’s will. In such a case, angels will be assigned to guide and protect the person in their journey. When someone attempts to leave their body with the use of mind altering substances, or simply self induced travel, they risk an attack from the adversary. I would never recommend dabbling in the spiritual realm without the Lord’s Spirit as a guide and protection.

23 Now we see that Ammon could not be slain, for the Lord had said unto Mosiah, his father: I will spare him, and it shall be unto him according to thy faith—therefore, Mosiah trusted him unto the Lord.

24 And it came to pass that when the multitude beheld that the man had fallen dead, who lifted the sword to slay Ammon, fear came upon them all, and they durst not put forth their hands to touch him or any of those who had fallen; and they began to marvel again among themselves what could be the cause of this great power, or what all these things could mean.

25 And it came to pass that there were many among them who said that Ammon was the Great Spirit, and others said he was sent by the Great Spirit; [They now recognized there was something spiritual happening. The Spirit of God was all around them, which is a tangible experience to those who first encounter it.]

26 But others rebuked them all, saying that he was a monster, who had been sent from the Nephites to torment them. [Fear of the unknown opens one to the lies of the Adversary. A person can be standing within the pillar of light and know it not. If their hearts are closed it will not benefit them.]

27 And there were some who said that Ammon was sent by the Great Spirit to afflict them because of their iniquities; and that it was the Great Spirit that had always attended the Nephites, who had ever delivered them out of their hands; and they said that it was this Great Spirit who had destroyed so many of their brethren, the Lamanites.

28 And thus the contention began to be exceedingly sharp among them. And while they were thus contending, the woman servant who had caused the multitude to be gathered together came, and when she saw the contention which was among the multitude she was exceedingly sorrowful, even unto tears.

29 And it came to pass that she went and took the queen by the hand, that perhaps she might raise her from the ground; and as soon as she touched her hand she arose and stood upon her feet, and cried with a loud voice, saying: O blessed Jesus, who has saved me from an awful hell! O blessed God, have mercy on this people! [The Lord delights in every detail.]

30 And when she had said this, she clasped her hands, being filled with joy, speaking many words which were not understood [Expressing the majesty of the Heavenly Realm would be difficult to describe to such a people.]; and when she had done this, she took the king, Lamoni, by the hand, and behold he arose and stood upon his feet.

31 And he, immediately, seeing the contention among his people, went forth and began to rebuke them, and to teach them the words which he had heard from the mouth of Ammon; and as many as heard his words believed, and were converted unto the Lord. [child-like faith]

32 But there were many among them who would not hear his words; therefore they went their way. [In the presence of the majesty of God, the wicked will flee.]

33 And it came to pass that when Ammon arose he also administered unto them, and also did all the servants of Lamoni; and they did all declare unto the people the selfsame thing—that their hearts had been changed; that they had no more desire to do evil. [A sign of the gift of the Holy Ghost.]

34 And behold, many did declare unto the people that they had seen angels and had conversed with them; and thus they had told them things of God, and of his righteousness. [When an angel comes to you it will not be with the physical eyes, unless it is a translated person. It will be in the spirit.]

35 And it came to pass that there were many that did believe in their words; and as many as did believe were baptized; and they became a righteous people, and they did establish a church among them. [All of Ammon’s afflictions and acts of service culminated in this miraculous event because of his patience and faith in God. We must also be patient in our quest to know God and be His servant. The Lord is in every detail.]

36 And thus the work of the Lord did commence among the Lamanites; thus the Lord did begin to pour out his Spirit upon them; and we see that his arm is extended to all people who will repent and believe on his name. [The Lord is no respecter of persons. Never think you are unworthy of the glory of God, his miracles, and gifts. Those who come to Him in humility with a pure heart will see God.]

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14 Responses to In Every Detail – Alma 19:1-36

  1. Myrsmakeup says:

    I notice the words often used are “detail” and “delight.” It’s used in scripture often:)

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  2. S Silver says:

    Vs 16: And it came to pass that they did call on the name of the Lord, in their might, even until they had all fallen to the earth [the Lord is no respecter of persons]

    What did they say that brought such a swift answer from heaven in this way? [Their hearts were ready and the timing was right. PR]

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  3. S Silver says:

    Vs 16 “… save it were one of the Lamanitish women, whose name was Abish, she having been converted unto the Lord for many years, on account of a remarkable vision of her father”

    Had Abish already obtained her baptism of fire and ascended to the Lord for her Second Comforter?

    Did she have to hide what she knew from her people for the most part?
    That would be lonely but it makes sense if she’s being prepared for this day.

    How long was the “many years” she had been converted to the Lord? [I don’t know anything about Abish. It’s on my list of questions for the Lord. PR]
    [I have amended the text above to include the vision of Abish. PR]

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  4. Nate says:

    This was before the Time of the Gentiles, we’re King Lamoni’s people just a very rare exception? I thought the gospel wasn’t extended to anyone outside of Israel until after Christ’s Resurrection. It was to the extent that past dispensation weren’t even allowed to marry outside of Israel. [King Lamoni’s people were House of Israel, not Gentiles. PR]

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  5. Mike Ross says:

    So the Lamanites falling to the earth was an ascension! I always wondered why they had to fall. I don’t know of any accounts in our day of people falling in the church but hear and have seen videos of others in other churches who do this. Also in the burnt over district where Joseph grew up in falling down during sermons was fairly common. Very interesting [I can’t say that is true in all cases. PR]

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  6. Nate says:

    Are second estate gentiles that make the Everlasting Covenant before birth, Iaraelite? Or elect? [Elect, but are considered spiritually the House of Israel. PR]

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  7. Nate says:

    [Three days he would appear dead and then to rise again. Similar to Jonah in the whale, a similitude of the resurrection.]

    So the story of Jonah bring swallowed by a whale for three days literally happened? [Yes. PR]

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  8. Lori Davis says:

    It seems in the scriptures that when people desire the Lord and repent and cry unto the Lord they get swift answers. They receive their baptism of fire right then. Is it more difficult now to receive because of the traditions and things that we are living in? [The main culprit is our false traditions or “unbeliefs.” We have all kinds of expectations or doubts that often get in the way. To have the baptism of fire you have to completely let go of everything, a full submission. PR]

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  9. S Silver says:

    How did you get over your greatest fear before your baptism of fire?

    As a parent, how did you also surrender your children’s lives? (Isn’t that part of what you have to put on the altar: The fear of them being taken from you by death because it’s the Lord’s plan?) [Perfect love (for the Lord) casteth out all fear. PR]

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  10. Karla says:

    Two questions I have, well I shouldn’t give a number of how many questions I’ll ask because I always end up asking way more, so I apologize in advance. One, did Ammon and his brothers marry Lamanitish women? Or were they already married before leaving their country? I would think not, but they did live with the Lamanites for close to 14 years. King Lamoni offers Ammon one of his daughters but Ammon declined, but I wondered if this changed after Lamoni and his wife were converted. Why is it or seems a lot common for people when they had a strong spiritual experience to fall to the ground? unconscious, and be out for a while? I here of people and other churches where they are filled with the Spirit and they faint, is this similar to what the Lamanites experienced. I knew I would end up with more then to questions. [The first question is answered in the comments on chapter 17. I can’t say whether similar descriptive accounts today are the same as what Lamoni and his court experienced. It was unheard of even for his day. PR]

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  11. Karla says:

    Thank you! I thought I was in chapter 18, haven’t read your translation of chapter 19 yet.

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  12. Mike Ross says:

    Now, this was what Ammon desired, for he knew that king Lamoni was under the power of God; he knew that the dark veil of unbelief [traditions of his fathers] was being cast away from his mind,

    So this is an instance where the Lord or angelic entities act upon humans in removing unbelief? Do they help us too or is it all us, our own power that must dispel our own unbelief?

    It seems like King Lamoni was being taught in the spirit world [Typically, when we are overcoming unbelief it begins with sincere prayer followed by the ministering of angels as we are prepared both spiritually and in the physical realm for more of the doctrine of Christ. In the case of Lamoni, he was taken directly to the spritual realm where he was taught before returning to his people. That part of the story is rare, but for each individual we must, like Lamoni, cry out to God to have mercy upon us and help us to come to Him. PR]

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  13. Jake Detweiler says:

    A couple years ago I got an audio book with aid in having an out of body experience through relaxation and meditation, I felt like I was getting out a few times, passing through, what he called the Vibrational state. Though, at the time felt guilty because I had heard the church leaders frowned upon such things, and I felt I was bypassing the Lord.
    Now a few years later, I’m contemplating trying mushrooms to get past my veil, but after reading this chapter, you mention it may be a bad idea.
    I feel like my veil is unusually thick and at times get frustrated waiting upon the Lord for “the right time”
    If you don’t mind, can you shed some more light on this concept? [The overall purpose is not to pierce the veil, but to develop faith. The result of which is to come unto Christ. This usually comes in increments for most people, and the Lord works with us. When we use substances, or take a back door to simply see beyond the veil, we don’t develop faith and the process is in vain. I would be so careful in this regard and never do anything without permission from the Lord.PR]

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  14. jaywez says:

    I have a friend who doesn’t believe in the historicity of Jonah and the fish. He believes this in part because the LDS bible dictionary seems to conclude it’s a beautiful poem. A respected scripture scholar also concludes it’s just a story. He says, it’s possible for a story to be true even if it isn’t historical.

    I couldn’t find mention of Jonah in your books, so I was hoping you would share your understanding of this account. Many thanks! [100% true story. If someone has a problem believing this story, the entire Bible has far more improbable things to consider. PR]

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