Ammon Defends Lamoni – Alma 20:1-30

1 And it came to pass that when they had established a church in that land, that king Lamoni desired that Ammon should go with him to the land of Nephi [south and west], that he might show him unto his father.

2 And the voice of the Lord came to Ammon, saying: Thou shalt not go up to the land of Nephi, for behold, the king will seek thy life [The same king that sent an army to destroy the people of Ammonihah.]; but thou shalt go to the land of Middoni; for behold, thy brother Aaron, and also Muloki and Ammah are in prison.

3 Now it came to pass that when Ammon had heard this, he said unto Lamoni: Behold, my brother and brethren are in prison at Middoni, and I go that I may deliver them.

4 Now Lamoni said unto Ammon: I know, in the strength of the Lord thou canst do all things. But behold, I will go with thee to the land of Middoni; for the king of the land of Middoni, whose name is Antiomno, is a friend unto me; therefore I go to the land of Middoni, that I may flatter the king of the land, and he will cast thy brethren out of prison. Now Lamoni said unto him: Who told thee that thy brethren were in prison?

5 And Ammon said unto him: No one hath told me, save it be God; and he said unto me—Go and deliver thy brethren, for they are in prison in the land of Middoni. [Ammon had seen in a vision along with the voice of the Lord commanding him to go there.]

6 Now when Lamoni had heard this he caused that his servants should make ready his horses and his chariots. [Only the king traveled in this manner. These were not horses as we normally think. And they were not prehistoric horses. They were harnessed animals and this is all I will say about it.]

7 And he said unto Ammon: Come, I will go with thee down to the land of Middoni, and there I will plead with the king that he will cast thy brethren out of prison.

8 And it came to pass that as Ammon and Lamoni were journeying thither, they met the father of Lamoni, who was king over all the land.

9 And behold, the father of Lamoni said unto him: Why did ye not come to the feast on that great day when I made a feast unto my sons, and unto my people?

10 And he also said: Whither art thou going with this Nephite, who is one of the children of a liar? [Associating with the people of Nehor and the descendants of Nephi.]

11 And it came to pass that Lamoni rehearsed unto him whither he was going, for he feared to offend him.

12 And he also told him all the cause of his tarrying in his own kingdom, that he did not go unto his father to the feast which he had prepared.

13 And now when Lamoni had rehearsed unto him all these things, behold, to his astonishment, his father was angry with him, and said: Lamoni, thou art going to deliver these Nephites, who are sons of a liar. Behold, he robbed our fathers; and now his children are also come amongst us that they may, by their cunning and their lyings, deceive us, that they again may rob us of our property.

In defense of the Lamanites, they had many dealings with unscrupulous Nephites in the recent years and this only solidified their cynicism and hatred for a people they saw as corrupt and evil.

14 Now the father of Lamoni commanded him that he should slay Ammon with the sword. And he also commanded him that he should not go to the land of Middoni, but that he should return with him to the land of Ishmael.

15 But Lamoni said unto him: I will not slay Ammon, neither will I return to the land of Ishmael, but I go to the land of Middoni that I may release the brethren of Ammon, for I know that they are just men and holy prophets of the true God.

16 Now when his father had heard these words, he was angry with him, and he drew his sword that he might smite him to the earth.

17 But Ammon stood forth and said unto him: Behold, thou shalt not slay thy son; nevertheless, it were better that he should fall than thee, for behold, he has repented of his sins; but if thou shouldst fall at this time, in thine anger, thy soul could not be saved.

18 And again, it is expedient that thou shouldst forbear; for if thou shouldst slay thy son, he being an innocent man, his blood would cry from the ground to the Lord his God, for vengeance to come upon thee; and perhaps thou wouldst lose thy soul.

19 Now when Ammon had said these words unto him, he answered him, saying: I know that if I should slay my son, that I should shed innocent blood; for it is thou that hast sought to destroy him.

20 And he stretched forth his hand to slay Ammon. But Ammon withstood his blows, and also smote his arm that he could not use it.

21 Now when the king saw that Ammon could slay him, he began to plead with Ammon that he would spare his life.

22 But Ammon raised his sword, and said unto him: Behold, I will smite thee except thou wilt grant unto me that my brethren may be cast out of prison.

23 Now the king, fearing he should lose his life, said: If thou wilt spare me I will grant unto thee whatsoever thou wilt ask, even to half of the kingdom.

24 Now when Ammon saw that he had wrought upon the old king according to his desire, he said unto him: If thou wilt grant that my brethren may be cast out of prison, and also that Lamoni may retain his kingdom, and that ye be not displeased with him, but grant that he may do according to his own desires in whatsoever thing he thinketh, then will I spare thee; otherwise I will smite thee to the earth.

25 Now when Ammon had said these words, the king began to rejoice because of his life.

26 And when he saw that Ammon had no desire to destroy him, and when he also saw the great love he had for his son Lamoni, he was astonished exceedingly, and said: Because this is all that thou hast desired, that I would release thy brethren, and suffer that my son Lamoni should retain his kingdom, behold, I will grant unto you that my son may retain his kingdom from this time and forever; and I will govern him no more—

27 And I will also grant unto thee that thy brethren may be cast out of prison, and thou and thy brethren may come unto me, in my kingdom; for I shall greatly desire to see thee. For the king was greatly astonished at the words which he had spoken, and also at the words which had been spoken by his son Lamoni, therefore he was desirous to learn them.

I am curious about the circumstances of this meeting between Lamoni, his father, and Ammon. Surely there were many guards for both kings. Why was either king in danger of their life? Were they in a private tent or place when conversing? 

28 And it came to pass that Ammon and Lamoni proceeded on their journey towards the land of Middoni. And Lamoni found favor in the eyes of the king of the land; therefore the brethren of Ammon were brought forth out of prison.

29 And when Ammon did meet them he was exceedingly sorrowful, for behold they were naked, and their skins were worn exceedingly because of being bound with strong cords. And they also had suffered hunger, thirst, and all kinds of afflictions; nevertheless they were patient in all their sufferings. [Its important to understand that the Lord does allow the righteous to suffer. Their sacrifices are beautiful monuments for the eternities. The Lord will either release them to finish their work, or they will be called home to glory. We must trust in Him. In the final days the Gatherers will be translated for the purpose of expediency, without pain of the body, but the heavy weight of sorrow will afflict them daily as they witness the carnage and depravity that will flood the earth.]

30 And, as it happened, it was their lot to have fallen into the hands of a more hardened and a more stiffnecked people; therefore they would not hearken unto their words, and they had cast them out, and had smitten them, and had driven them from house to house, and from place to place, even until they had arrived in the land of Middoni; and there they were taken and cast into prison, and bound with strong cords, and kept in prison for many days, and were delivered by Lamoni and Ammon.

This chapter used to be my reminder as a church missionary that some elders go to fruitful lands to teach the Gospel and others to a more stiff-necked people. I served my mission in Asia and it was not easy to teach the Gospel there. I have a much different view of missionary work today than before. I know very clearly now that as a servant of the Lord I am only called to do that which the Lord has me to do. I cannot expect anything without listening to the Spirit of revelation and acting upon it. When I was a missionary I did everything as I was commanded by my leaders. I wonder how things would be different had I been able to exercise faith like Ammon to serve the people and only preach when the time was right?

When the Gatherers are sent forth for the last time they will act atonomously like Ammon in most cases, only answering to the commandments of the Lord by revelation, and under the direction of the Great Servant.

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14 Responses to Ammon Defends Lamoni – Alma 20:1-30

  1. S Silver says:

    Why won’t the Lord let you talk more about the “horses”? Is it to avoid the BoM being scoffed at and taken too lightly? Or because He wants to reveal it to us Himself? [Too much of a distraction. But when I was told that I wondered about other things I have been allowed to say and wondered how it could be any more so. But I suppose it would be. PR]

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  2. S Silver says:

    Did it require two or four (or more?) harnessed animals to pull the chariots? Were the chariots heavy? All wood? Two wheels? Can you describe the chariots? [Usually an open carriage pulled by two animals. PR]

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  3. S Silver says:

    Vs 17: “…but if thou shouldst fall at this time, in thine anger, thy soul could not be saved.”

    Does he mean that the father of Lamoni would not have achieved salvation/baptism of fire in this life and if killed without it, would have to again attempt to progress in another later mortal probation? [He would lose his opportunity to repent and receive Christ. PR]

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  4. S Silver says:

    Were Ammon and Lamoni closer in age, like peers, and Lamoni’s father middle aged? Or was everyone much older than Ammon? [Ammon was in his twenties. Lamoni was around forty five years old.]

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  5. daniel Dylan says:

    (“ When the Gatherers are sent forth for the last time they will act atonomously like Ammon in most cases, only answering to the commandments of the Lord by revelation, and under the direction of the Great Servant.“) your comment in the last paragraph. Are the Gathers all 4th Estate beings ? [Yes. PR] Will the 3rd estate beings have any missions in the last days? [Their main mission is to come to Christ. After that everything they do is a witness of their faith. Many will contribute to the building of Zion. PR] Have these Gatherers already started to awaken and to receive their missions? Or are they waiting for a specific last day event? [Many are awakening, but few have yet arised. For many, they will receive the Savior similar to how Christ came to Bountiful. PR] Do you know what this event is? [Yes] Will these servants work out of the many Zions on the earth ? [Yes]Are the cities with LDS temples all going to be Zions in the last days? [No] Forgive me for my many questions. I keep a journal of all your answers, arranged by subject matter. Thank you so much for your patience. [I admire your faith. Of course, receive your own confirmations from the Lord. PR]

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  6. daniel Dylan says:

    Is Salt Lake City going to be a Zion City? With its many LDS temples in this area I wonder if this area will be a huge city of Zion. Do you have any visions or insights on this topic? Also, I use the search bar at the top of the page before asking so I don’t ask a question you have answered before. I admire all the time you spend helping us to grow in knowledge. You have made the Book of Mormon come alive with your insights and visions from the Lord. It amazes me! I am so thankful everyday for each chapter you post! [You are welcome. I do not have permission to name where the outlier Zion cities will be. PR]

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  7. jcodyhale says:

    What period of time will the majority of the gathering take place, the end of the 6th dispensation, or the beginning of the 7th? [There is an overlapping of the sixth into the seventh dispensation. PR]

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  8. 1lhn says:

    Will the Gathers be Men, Women, and Children of all ages? [I only saw men and women. PR]

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  9. Ekaterina Turman says:

    You said about the Gatherers, [Many are awakening, but few have yet arised. For many, they will receive the Savior similar to how Christ came to Bountiful. PR]
    When Chirst came to the righteous people in Bountiful, it was only after all kinds of calamities and disasters had happened and after the destruction of the wicked. Will this also be the case in the future as well? Will the event leading to their awakening be of a catastrophical nature? Also, wouldn’t this require for many of the Gatherers to be physcially present at one place. Wouldn’t that exclude many of them since they are spread out across the world? [It will come after a significant disaster, but not before the final judgments. There will be an initial group of Gatherers, about 70 of them, with the rest to follow until there are about 3000. Each will be personally touched by the Lord and sealed up to do this. PR]

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  10. Ekaterina Turman says:

    The 3000 Gatherers that you mentioned, are they part of the 144K? Would the rest of the Servants work from the other side of the veil to help prepare the Elect or do they have other missions? Are there as many men as women among the Gatherers? Are there couples who will serve together to gather in the Elect? Do you know how many Elect there will be who would need to be gathered and brought to Zion? [Yes, the 3000 are from the 144k, and the rest are on the other side of the veil. Yes, they are preparing the Elect. There is an equal number of male and female amongst the 144k. I don’t know how many of the Elect will be brought to Zion, but it is not a few. PR]

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  11. jstone511 says:

    Are those living now, who receive their second comforter, part of the 3000 gatherers? Or better stated: if someone living now receives their second comforter experience while in the flesh, can they assume they’re part of the 3000 gatherers? Or do 3rd estates sometimes receive their second comforter? [It depends on you would define a Second Comforter experience. The Lord has shown Himself to many, not just the 4th estate. However, the kind of Second Comforter where a person is taken up to the Lord is for those called to perform a 4th estate mission. Those who will be Gatherers are all living upon the earth today. PR]

    And are all 3000 living on earth right now?

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  12. truthseeker1820 says:

    Who is the Great Servant? [He is the one who will lead the Gatherers in establishing Zion and gathering the House of Israel before Christ’s coming in glory. His identity has not been revealed publicly. PR]

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  13. S Silver says:

    From a comment above: “ Who is the Great Servant? [He is the one who will lead the Gatherers in establishing Zion and gathering the House of Israel before Christ’s coming in glory. His identity has not been revealed publicly. PR]”

    Does this Servant currently know in mortality what his mission is?
    Is he currently starting his work?
    Or not quite yet because not all of the Gatherers are awake yet?
    [I have seen him in vision. At that time he had not yet awakened to his mission. I would suspect the Lord is preparing him now and he may be fully awake. I have not asked. I do know that there are many who claim to know his identity and are telling people. Many saying “Lo here, and lo there!” But, I have yet to hear anyone share his truthful identity as it was revealed to me. The Lord desires to keep it hidden from the world. However, the Joseph Servant who is a direct descendant of Lehi is fully awake. PR]

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  14. truthseeker1820 says:

    Is the Great Servant the Davidic Servant or someone else? [Yes, it is the same. Sometimes people confuse the Joseph Lamanite Servant as this person, but they are different. Also, FYI, if I don’t answer a question it may be because I do not understand the acronyms, or if you post the names, institutions, or links of others. This is a rule for the blog, thanks. PR]


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