They Did Not Taste of Death – 3 Nephi 28:1-40

1 And it came to pass when Jesus had said these words, he spake unto his disciples, one by one, saying unto them: What is it that ye desire of me, after that I am gone to the Father? [The very same question was asked of the Lord’s apostles on the banks of the Sea of Galilee.]

2 And they all spake, save it were three, saying: We desire that after we have lived unto the age of man, that our ministry, wherein thou hast called us, may have an end, that we may speedily come unto thee in thy kingdom. [Their greatest desire was to fulfill their mission and come home.]

3 And he said unto them: Blessed are ye because ye desired this thing of me; therefore, after that ye are seventy and two years old ye shall come unto me in my kingdom; and with me ye shall find rest.

The Lord said that the number 72 is the number of completion of covenant, particularly the grouping of covenants. It did not mean that they would each die on their 72nd birthday, but that their lives would not be cut short. Some lived well beyond this age. (personal journal)

4 And when he had spoken unto them, he turned himself unto the three, and said unto them: What will ye that I should do unto you, when I am gone unto the Father? [They were required to ask.]

5 And they sorrowed in their hearts, for they durst not speak unto him the thing which they desired. [Too often we do not ask the Lord for that which we desire because of unbelief, or false traditions. There is a prevalent unbelief amongst many today that the Lord expects us to work it all out for ourselves and only come to Him if we are in desperate for help. The Law of Asking is an important principle of faith in the Lord’s Kingdom. However, when the Spirit guides us in the questions we ask we will have pure intent. To ask for that which is only to consume in our lusts is not of God.]

6 And he said unto them: Behold, I know your thoughts, and ye have desired the thing which John, my beloved, who was with me in my ministry, before that I was lifted up by the Jews, desired of me. [Even though the Lord already knew their thoughts, they still needed to ask. What they wanted was given to them by the Spirit, of it was the mission for which they had been called before the foundation of the world.]

7 Therefore, more blessed are ye, for ye shall never taste of death [body shall not lie down in the ground]; but ye shall live to behold all the doings of the Father unto the children of men, even until all things shall be fulfilled according to the will of the Father, when I shall come in my glory with the powers of heaven. [At this time all translated beings shall be resurrected to their wholeness of body.]

8 And ye shall never endure the pains of death; but when I shall come in my glory ye [your body] shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye from mortality [how you look now] to immortality [fully resurrected body]; and then shall ye be blessed in the kingdom of my Father. [A translated being is physically changed to where their bodies are not subject to the physical laws of mortality. However, their appearance continues from the age in which they were translated. Every wrinkle, blemish, and physical characteristic is the same.]

9 And again, ye shall not have pain while ye shall dwell in the flesh [They cannot be harmed unto pain in any way.] , neither sorrow save it be for the sins of the world; and all this will I do because of the thing which ye have desired of me, for ye have desired that ye might bring the souls of men unto me, while the world shall stand.

Those who have experienced translation feel the physical world around them, yet their bodies are able to move amongst the living without the same constraints. They can travel great distances, move through solid objects, and have none of the ill effects that would harm a physical body. Like a spirit with a physical shell that can cloak their spirit. The flesh is as dust that can reshape itself.

The effect of not aging is only a small evidence of this great gift. Only those who are called and chosen of God to be servants for Him from before the foundation of this world are given this calling.

10 And for this cause ye shall have fulness of joy; and ye shall sit down in the kingdom of my Father; yea, your joy shall be full, even as the Father hath given me fulness of joy; and ye shall be even as I am, and I am even as the Father; and the Father and I are one; [Their understanding of God’s will shall be unhindered. (an aspect of the sealing power) A fullness of joy is the equivalent of seeing the fulfillment of God’s word and your part in that process.]

11 And the Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and the Father giveth the Holy Ghost unto the children of men, because of me.

12 And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words, he touched every one of them with his finger save it were the three who were to tarry, and then he departed. [What was the effect of the touch given to these disciples? He gave them the sealing power and the Lord consummated the promise given to them.]

13 And behold, the heavens were opened, and they [the three] were caught up into heaven, and saw and heard unspeakable things. [This is the hallmark of such an event in the life of a servant, for they have an ascension to the Throne of Heaven where they are taught the mysteries of God by the Lord Himself.]

14 And it was forbidden them that they should utter; neither was it given unto them power that they could utter the things which they saw and heard;

15 And whether they were in the body or out of the body, they could not tell; for it did seem unto them like a transfiguration of them, that they were changed from this body of flesh into an immortal state, that they could behold the things of God. [This is the greatest experience that a servant of the Lord can be given. To stand at the Throne and be shown all things. It feels real and tangible, yet not the same as a physical experience in that the senses are freed, and the realism reaches a hyper sensitive level, where one almost feels like after returning to the body that the physical world is less real. After returning to the physical world nothing feels the same again, and for these three it wasn’t.]

16 But it came to pass that they did again minister upon the face of the earth; nevertheless they did not minister of the things which they had heard and seen, because of the commandment which was given them in heaven. [They were shown the fullness of the Everlasting Covenant. Such things are not to be shared. They were commanded to only teach the Doctrine of Christ and then the Beatitudes and additional commandments the Lord had given them in Bountiful. Oh, how their thoughts and memories reached the Heavens for the remainder of their lives!]

17 And now, whether they were mortal or immortal, from the day of their transfiguration, I know not; [What I have been shown regarding the future event when the Gatherers are called and receive the gift of translation is that it is a process that takes about 40 days. It involves fasting and coming to know what this new body can do. It is not something that is acquired by eating certain foods or reaching a higher peak of righteousness. It can only be given directly from God, by a touch (ordinance). This will not occur in the future until the temple is built at First Zion and the initial servants are gathered in His name. The experience will be much like Christ’s appearance to the Nephites in bountiful, but with a different purpose.]

18 But this much I know, according to the record which hath been given—they did go forth upon the face of the land, and did minister unto all the people, uniting as many to the church as would believe in their preaching; baptizing them, and as many as were baptized did receive the Holy Ghost. [Similar to what the Gatherers shall do, but on a smaller scale.]

19 And they were cast into prison by them who did not belong to the church. And the prisons could not hold them, for they were rent in twain.

20 And they were cast down into the earth; but they did smite the earth with the word of God, insomuch that by his power they were delivered out of the depths of the earth; and therefore they could not dig pits sufficient to hold them.

21 And thrice they were cast into a furnace and received no harm.

22 And twice were they cast into a den of wild beasts; and behold they did play with the beasts as a child with a suckling lamb, and received no harm.

23 And it came to pass that thus they did go forth among all the people of Nephi, and did preach the gospel of Christ unto all people upon the face of the land; and they were converted unto the Lord, and were united unto the church of Christ, and thus the people of that generation were blessed, according to the word of Jesus.

The miracles that will be performed by the Lord’s servants in the last days will be so commonplace that rarely will the stories be told, except by those who were the recipients of them.

24 And now I, Mormon, make an end of speaking concerning these things for a time.

25 Behold, I was about to write the names of those who were never to taste of death, but the Lord forbade; therefore I write them not, for they are hid from the world. [I have had experiences with these men. Once in the physical body and in the Spirit. They look to be in their middle age, wrinkles and all. One is a Lamanite and works mostly with the Remnant of Jacob. The other two are brothers and are preparing for the Book of Mormon to fulfill its destiny and the coming forth of Zion. They do interact among the living today.]

26 But behold, I have seen them, and they have ministered unto me.

27 And behold they will be among the Gentiles, and the Gentiles shall know them not.

28 They will also be among the Jews, and the Jews shall know them not.

29 And it shall come to pass, when the Lord seeth fit in his wisdom that they shall minister unto all the scattered tribes of Israel, and unto all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, and shall bring out of them unto Jesus many souls, that their desire may be fulfilled, and also because of the convincing power of God which is in them. [When a servant speaks by the power of the Holy Ghost it has an extreme power to convince others of truth, and the Elect will respond to the call.]

30 And they are as the angels of God, and if they shall pray unto the Father in the name of Jesus they can show themselves unto whatsoever man it seemeth them good. [And such is the calling of translation as a servant of God. These are the 4th estate who minister to the House of Israel in the last days.]

31 Therefore, great and marvelous works shall be wrought by them, before the great and coming day when all people must surely stand before the judgment-seat of Christ;

32 Yea even among the Gentiles shall there be a great and marvelous work wrought by them, before that judgment day. [What is this event? It is a series of many events that lead toward the establishment of Zion before the Lord’s coming. This work in the last days began with the establishment of American freedom, the coming forth of the Book of Mormon with Joseph Smith’s calling, and leads up to the grand gathering. There is a small handful of translated beings that are choreographing this under the direction of the Lord and some day their works shall be made known.]

33 And if ye had all the scriptures which give an account of all the marvelous works of Christ, ye would, according to the words of Christ, know that these things must surely come. [If you only knew how much the Lord is involved you would truly marvel.]

34 And wo be unto him that will not hearken unto the words of Jesus, and also to them whom he hath chosen and sent among them; for whoso receiveth not the words of Jesus and the words of those whom he hath sent receiveth not him; and therefore he will not receive them at the last day;

35 And it would be better for them if they had not been born. For do ye suppose that ye can get rid of the justice of an offended God, who hath been trampled under feet of men, that thereby salvation might come? [If you do not follow the voice of the shepherd you will not be secure and protected.]

36 And now behold, as I spake concerning those whom the Lord hath chosen, yea, even three who were caught up into the heavens, that I knew not whether they were cleansed from mortality to immortality— [An addendum is added to the record:]

37 But behold, since I wrote, I have inquired of the Lord, and he hath made it manifest unto me that there must needs be a change wrought upon their bodies, or else it needs be that they must taste of death;

38 Therefore, that they might not taste of death there was a change wrought upon their bodies, that they might not suffer pain nor sorrow save it were for the sins of the world.

39 Now this change was not equal to that which shall take place at the last day; but there was a change wrought upon them, insomuch that Satan could have no power over them, that he could not tempt them; and they were sanctified [filled with light] in the flesh, that they were holy, and that the powers of the earth could not hold them.

40 And in this state they were to remain until the judgment day of Christ [the second coming]; and at that day they were to receive a greater change, and to be received into the kingdom of the Father to go no more out [no longer required to condescend as a 4th estate], but to dwell with God eternally in the heavens.

 

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17 Responses to They Did Not Taste of Death – 3 Nephi 28:1-40

  1. Rebecca Brent says:

    In verse 40 when you noted that they will no longer be required to condescend as a 4th estate, are you referring to just this world, or permanently? [They have reached the end of their full requirement as a 4th estate in this world. PR]

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  2. S Silver says:

    Vs 5 note: “To ask for that which is only to consume in our lusts is not of God.“

    Can you better define “consume upon our lusts”? What does this mean? [Some people desire to experience the supernatural out of curiosity. People lust after many things in this life. Real intent is to seek the Lord in love and desire to serve Him and others. There is no other way. PR]

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  3. S Silver says:

    Vs 17 note: “until the temple is built at First Zion”

    Who builds this temple? [It is overseen by the 4th estate, its building, and fruition; but has been in the process of being prepared since the days of Moroni. PR]

    It seems to be built before the majority of believers in the US even realize a gathering is beginning. Is this assumption of mine correct? [Yes. PR]

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  4. S Silver says:

    Vs 25 note: “They do interact among the living today”

    In what way do they interact? [By physically interacting with people in need of their divine help. These are angels with a physical body that blend into the world. Rarely are they identified as angels. PR]

    Are you permitted to give a general example? [Mysterious good samaritans, but more often just seem like helpful strangers. Their acts are usually unassuming, and not spectacular. But they work in tandem with the angels and serve a great purpose among the living. PR]

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  5. S Silver says:

    What is the likelihood that one of us blog readers has had an interaction with one of the three Nephites without us knowing? [Very likely. PR]

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  6. S Silver says:

    The Lord has said it is not good for man to be alone. Did the 3 Nephites have their wives translated with them?

    Or because of their nature they are no longer mortal man who suffers loneliness and thus their wives are not translated? [In the case of these three disciples, their wives were not translated with them, but this will not be the case amongst the Gatherers in the last days, many of which will have their spouses with them. There was a good reason that their spouses were not with these original three. PR]

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  7. S Silver says:

    From vs 40: “to go no more out [no longer required to condescend as a 4th estate]”

    Is this great reward because they had fulfilled the last “step” (the last role) required of a 4th estate? [edit] [Their last role. PR]

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  8. John Crane says:

    I have always had questions about this passage. I hope you can help answer them.

    Question 1.
    Book of Mormon
    6 And he said unto them: Behold, I know your thoughts, and ye have desired the thing which John, my beloved, who was with me in my ministry, before that I was lifted up by the Jews, desired of me

    D&C
    7:6. Yea, he has undertaken a greater work; therefore I will make him as flaming fire and a ministering angel; he shall minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation who dwell on the earth.

    So, the three Nephites (one Lamanite) desired the same thing as John. Did they receive the same gift as John? In their changed state, were they, or could they be considered “as flaming fire and ministering angels”? [Yes, the same. PR]

    Question 2.
    Book of Mormon
    Therefore, more blessed are ye, for ye shall never taste of death [body shall not lie down in the ground];

    D&C
    110:13. After this vision had closed, another great and glorious vision burst upon us; for Elijah the prophet, who was taken to heaven without tasting death, stood before us, and said:

    D&C
    42:46. And it shall come to pass that those that die in me shall not taste of death, for it shall be sweet unto them;

    I take it that the expression “taste of death” means different things for John and the three Nephites, Elijah, and those who are blessed by the elders, but who “die in the Lord” [John, Elijah, and the three Disciples all were translated, but their experiences were each a little different. Those who are “blessed by the Elders” and still died were not translated, but were raised in glory. PR]

    Question 3.
    8 And ye shall never endure the pains of death; but when I shall come in my glory ye [your body] shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye from mortality [how you look now] to immortality [fully resurrected body]

    36 And now behold, as I spake concerning those whom the Lord hath chosen, yea, even three who were caught up into the heavens, that I knew not whether they were cleansed from mortality to immortality— [An addendum is added to the record:]

    37 But behold, since I wrote, I have inquired of the Lord, and he hath made it manifest unto me that there must needs be a change wrought upon their bodies, or else it needs be that they must taste of death;

    So, just to make it clear, Moroni is saying that they were still in mortality, but a different kind of mortality (not tasting of death when they were caught up to heaven? [Yes. PR]

    Question 4.
    You speak of “gatherers” in verse 17 and 18. Are these gatherers the same as “the servants of God who are sealed in their foreheads” mentioned in D&C 77:9 and who will “bring as many as will into the church of the firstborn” 77:11. You mention this in one of your books, as well, but I wasn’t clear who you were referring to. [Yes, the same. PR]

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  9. Myrsmakeup says:

    Oh boy…so now I’m thinking about Enoch and Melchizedek and their cities of people being translated because they were a pure and righteous group of believers.? Did they die in mortality and if not, will they eventually need to in order to be resurrected? Loaded question but are they connected to the names that could not be written?? WE are connected to them closer than we know, aren’t we!? I really need to pray on this and understand if you cannot speak on this…

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  10. About the fourth estate, does that include women who are 4th estate or is it only the men who go out gathering the elect or do the women go out and gather also? [Includes the women in the last days. PR]

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  11. daniel Dylan says:

    [“ I have had experiences with these men. Once in the physical body and in the Spirit. They look to be in their middle age, wrinkles and all. One is a Lamanite and works mostly with the Remnant of Jacob. The other two are brothers and are preparing for the Book of Mormon to fulfill its destiny and the coming forth of Zion. They do interact among the living today.PR ] Have they ever lived among us or do they reside in the city of Enoch and visit us as needed? [I don’t know anything about them having dwellings. They are fairly busy and go effortlessly between the Heavenly Realm and this world. PR] [“ [At this time all translated beings shall be resurrected to their wholeness of body.PR] Is a translated body just a lower level of light then a fully resurrected body? [There is no difference between a resurrected body and tranlated body in terms of glory, other than a translated body maintains the visage of mortality, their age, physical flaws, etc. There are many kinds of resurrections, so in the future, as they are further glorified, their resurrected bodies will change again. PR] I just can’t figure out what “wholeness of body means “. When someone is translated are they given the patriartical priesthood? [Patriarchal priesthood is just a word often used out of context. There is the priesthood used by the patriarchs, such as Enoch, and Noah, but that is Melchesidek, or the Terrestrial power of God. The Highest priesthood, which is both patriarchal and matriarchal, is a fullness of relationship with the Father. It is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. PR] Are you allowed to tell us about your interaction with them in the physical body and spirit that you mentioned above? Or is this something you could add to one of your books? [I discuss them in my book “A Witness of the Temporal Dispensations,” but it is heavily edited. PR] Can you tell us why their wives were not with the original three ? [They still had children to care for. Other reasons too, but this is what I was shown regarding that. PR] I just find this whole chapter to be fascinating. So many questions. Thank you for your patience with my questions. This whole Book of Mormon project of yours has been such a tremendous blessing in my life. I look forward to your new projects. Thank you so very much!

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  12. John Crane says:

    You said ” they move effortlessly between the Heavenly Realm and this world”. Are they restricted in any way of where they can go in the heavenly realm? For example, Peter wanted to quickly come and be with Christ in His kingdom when he died, but John wanted to tarry and bring souls to Christ. If John and the Three Nephites can more effortlessly between realms, is there any reason why they couldn’t also go back and temporarily be in the Presence of Christ from time to time? I.e. have the best of both choices, or are they prevented during their ministry from being with Christ (ascending to the Throne, even for brief visits)? What would prevent them from being fully resurrected before their time? Such as maybe just being in the Presence of Christ would work a further change on their bodies before that further change is supposed to happen? Hope this makes sense. [The purpose of translation is to continue to be able to serve the Lord in an angelic capacity, and maintain the visage of a mortal person. It is a unique type of resurrection. When their work in this world is done, their bodies are resurrected to their perfect form. They are in the presence of Christ often, but are not “resting” from the work among the living. PR]

    And I just want to add that this is marvelous that they would want to condescend to remain and help us “Greater love hath no man than that he lay down his life for his friends.” There is more than dying a martyr’s death to lay down your life.

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  13. Peter Taylor says:

    As it relates to the gathering of the House of Israel… what are the benefits/merits of the distinction of having House of Israel pure blood ancestry IF any person regardless of lineage born here on this earth can be adopted into the House of Israel? [More spirits will be born into those lines who are of the House of Israel. There are few today that are purely of this bloodline. PR]

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  14. Myrsmakeup says:

    Is the pure bloodline connection with the Levite’s and their families still recognized in our day? Is it the Levite’s that carry that pure bloodline throughout generations? [That is recognized among the Jews, but the Law of Moses is no longer required of the Lord. Levites have the right to officiate in temple duties by blood among the Jews, so this will play a small part of prophecy in the last days. However, the spiritual equivalent of a Levite is the most important. PR] And what about patriarchs who have given blessings pronouncing a person as a literal seed of Israel? This confuses the heck out of me! [I would always check with the Lord on those Patriarchal Blessing, for they are not always reliable. PR]

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  15. Jake Box says:

    PR, have you seen anything about Levi having a specific role on this earth in the last days in directing the levitical priesthood/relationship to help and complete those to come in and forward to a Melchizedek relationship. [There is a spiritual significance to Levi, a transitional phase of priesthood where people are preparing to come to Christ and assisting others to do the same. Many who follow this blog would be acting in a Levitical role in modern times. There are actual blood descendants of Levi in Israel who hope to be a part of the rebuilding of the temple there, but the blood sacrifices are not accepted of the Lord any longer. PR]

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  16. Chad Burnham says:

    PR – I am very interested in how the Book of Mormon will fulfill it’s destiny, as you stated in verse 25… How will the Book of Mormon’s destiny be fulfilled? [When it is presented to the Lamanite remnant and they are converted to Christ in preparation for His coming. PR]

    Curious question, that has recently been brought up… Did the 3 Nephites have a direct role in translating the Book of Mormon into English (before Joseph Smith’s work of “translation” or transcription)? In like manner, did the 3 Nephites have a role in determining the final resting place of the plates prior to coming into Joseph Smith’s possession? [Two of the three disciples of Christ that tarried are entrusted with the care of the resting place. All three are actively helping for the BofM to fulfill its destiny. Its the very reason why they tarried as translated beings. PR]

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  17. John Crane says:

    “40 …to go no more out [no longer required to condescend as a 4th estate], but to dwell with God eternally in the heavens.”

    This phrase “to go no more out” is found in the scriptures in many places. These passages always seemed mysterious until you understand the principle of condescension. Rev. 3:12, Alma 7:25, Alma 34:36, Hel 3:30, 3 Nephi 28:40, John 10:9 (talks about the sheep who follow Christ, their Good Shephard and know His voice and follow Him, coming in and going out of the sheep fold).

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